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blax1
12-27-2008, 08:03 AM
Interesting box............................ :D
What is it?
blax1
12-27-2008, 08:05 AM
Oh I see........................... ;)
blax1
12-27-2008, 08:14 AM
This is the third one actually sold in Australia........... :cool:
I couldn't beat the first guy he's the shop owner ;) and the second guy drove there the very next day and picked his up.
I had to wait for the courier... :)
I would like to Thank Pete, the owner of Power Grunt Hobbies here in Australia, for supplying this machine.
It took a while but we all agree the wait was well worth it...... :cool:
Awesome bit of kit, this heli-
blax1
12-27-2008, 08:18 AM
Carton open.. :eek:
blax1
12-27-2008, 08:19 AM
Some more... :)
Rappy1
12-27-2008, 08:26 AM
thats one sexy looking kit Ralph. i been checking back here every day to see when you will start your build for it. cant wait to see you build it up. Is that canopy one that needs painting? instead of stickers.
blax1
12-27-2008, 08:44 AM
Hi Nathan, thank you....... :cool:
The canopy is fibre glass and needs to be finished off and painted white first then I'll apply my decals and clear shoot it a few times.
I may start on this part of the project very soon.. :)
vermonster
12-27-2008, 11:16 AM
That's what they look like in the box, funny no one ever mentioned a CD. Ralph you must be ecstatic........:D
heli-cuzz
12-27-2008, 01:07 PM
Sweet 90 you got there, ralph.
I'd like to know who deleted the previous Avant build thread.
HeliRaptor
12-27-2008, 01:42 PM
That is one sweet machine. Looking forward to your build.
schluterdude
12-28-2008, 12:48 AM
no room for jokes in the previous avant thread... but, ralph's a prankster! can't wait to see your build buddy!
blax1
12-28-2008, 06:18 AM
Thanks everyone... :)
Moving on... :cool:
That's what they look like in the box, funny no one ever mentioned a CD. Ralph you must be ecstatic........
Glad you mentioned that OD, the CD has a PDF of the build manual, the latest build info is available here (http://www.avantrc.com/support/showthread.php?t=2) (you'll nead to register) and also a video of how to install the tubing in the middle of the main spindle, lots of guys use soap etc, but its a simple matter of just stretching the PVC tube with a pair of needle nose pliers when its been warmed up.
Sanded main frames using 400W&D take off any shape edges etc, dont want any short circuits on this baby.. :o
blax1
12-29-2008, 07:23 AM
Bag1
Frame stand off's
Engine mount
Gyro mount
Canopy stand off's
All mounted using Loctite 243 Blue
blax1
12-29-2008, 07:25 AM
Sacrificial canopy mounts, designed to break first in the event of a crash, hopefully saving the frame.
blax1
12-29-2008, 07:29 AM
All screws rinsed off in Methylated spirits to remove any oil, and to help the Loctite cure properly.
kcgraves
12-29-2008, 11:11 AM
Nice looking Heli Ralph, I'm a little jealous, all I got was a 450SE to put in my MD500E scale body. Keep the pictures coming as I'm now living vicariously through you. :D
phatchantz
12-29-2008, 06:06 PM
from sailplanes to crawlers, I've always enjoyed the "build"......... looking forward to watching yours Ralph !
( I may have to change my "homepage" :D )
blax1
12-31-2008, 05:12 AM
:)
Bag 2
Main gear sprague bearing assembly is the new modified type (brown seal)
TR drive gear also has mod'd M3x6 button head screws, as opposed to counter sunk flat head screw in earlier kits.
blax1
12-31-2008, 05:15 AM
Beautiful engineering :)
blax1
12-31-2008, 05:17 AM
TR drive gear.
blax1
12-31-2008, 07:38 AM
Excellent literature with this machine, there are updates at AvantRC support, just download the latest version.......... :cool:
blax1
12-31-2008, 07:42 AM
Found this needle point oil-er at my local hardware shop :confused:
Glad I did, awesome tool.
Gears coming together.
blax1
12-31-2008, 07:46 AM
This is also why you need to wash/rinse everything........................ :eek:
Main-shaft thread swarf, left inside after machining.
blax1
12-31-2008, 07:51 AM
There's a large Allen grab screw that locks up on the horizontal main gear roll pin, 243 Blue Loctite............................ :)
Now what did Finless say, Oh ya.....Don't wale on it, you guys get that? ;)
vermonster
12-31-2008, 09:47 AM
Looking good Ralph
Now what did Finless say, Oh ya.....Don't wale on it, you guys get that? ;)
means/ don't hammer the snot out of it
schluterdude
12-31-2008, 02:16 PM
lookin' good!
those are chips, not swarf :)
*shudder* chip makers.... sucks working on those machines....
heli-cuzz
12-31-2008, 03:48 PM
Alrighty ralph, looking good. Good to see you're making sure all parts are perfect before you start building.
Ralph, keep up the great build you're performing. Get that baby in the air. :cool:
blax1
01-02-2009, 11:59 PM
those are chips, not swarf :)
*shudder* chip makers.... sucks working on those machines....
Lost me.. :D
Mainshaft and bearing blocks into the frame.
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:06 AM
The assembly required you to epoxy the liner into the bell.
The liner is already cut to the exact length 146mm.. :)
Note how the bell is packaged, all the "Bling" alloy component's are packaged in this expandable nylon net for transportation..
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:09 AM
First I just clean the bell out with some methylated spirit, gets rid of any grease oil etc, apply a thin layer of epoxy to the liner and then just wrap it into the bell. :)
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:12 AM
Then I used a hole saw from my wood cutting hole saw kit, the spring steal, was perfect to keep pressure applied to the liner whilst it cured, worked a treat and saved me rummaging around for a cap or some other device to the job.. :cool:
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:17 AM
After the epoxy had cured,(I left until the next day)
I simply ran an exacto around the top of the bell to remove the excess liner, about 1/2 a mil- then sanded on piece of glass with some 400W&D to finish it off.
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:21 AM
Bag 3
Assemble clutch bell and bearing blocks.. :)
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:25 AM
Red loctite pinion to bearing in bearing block (being care not use to much and pump it into the bearing) then tightening the lock nut using 243 Blue.
blax1
01-03-2009, 12:27 AM
Then mounting this assembly into the frame, leaving the bolts loose at this time, so engine alignment can be performed later on.
heli-cuzz
01-03-2009, 01:00 AM
Then I used a hole saw from my wood cutting hole saw kit, the spring steal, was perfect to keep pressure applied to the liner whilst it cured, worked a treat and saved me rummaging around for a cap or some other device to the job.. :cool:
Looks great ralph!
Here's a great method for clutch liner installations. Use electrical tape and wrap it around the clutch shoe. Usually one wrap is suffice for proper gapping between the shoe and liner. Place the shoe with tape into the clutch bell, don't forget to epoxy the liner. Use the shaft or something that will keep the shoe centered. I use 5 minute epoxy on all my helis including the Tempest with no slippage of the liners. I always end up using a hobby knife when removing to re-install a new liner.
I havn't seen a manual that calls for any particular spacing, so I'm guessing about 1/1000th of an inch should be suffice.
Can't wait to see the baby complete. :)
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:08 AM
Cheers Cuzz, I'll keep that one in mind, thats a good idea... :)
Bag 4
Tail pickup mechanism, looks complex lots of parts, but once you start its not to bad.
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:11 AM
Sorting out the shims, there are.
2 x 0.1
2 x 0.2
2 x 0.3
Took me a while to work out what was going on here, I had two stuck together, got it sorted moved on.
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:28 AM
In the instructions, it says you can feel the difference between the shims... :confused:
Crap.....IMO..... :rolleyes:
Out came the micrometer
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:30 AM
Installing role pin in tail gear drive.
You can also hit it with punch and hammer, you need to be a consistent shot ;)
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:33 AM
Tail gear bearing blocks coming together.
Using ball link pliers to press drive pin through, worked a treat... :)
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:35 AM
Vertical drive assembly completed.
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:44 AM
Both vertical and horizontal shafts installed.
Now the shimming process begins.
Trying to achieve
No end float.
No back lash.
Flush alignment.
Free spinning assembly.
All high spots are off set to counteract binding, this took me three goes to get it sorted properly, I ended up using two X 0.3 shims, on each shaft.
She rotates like silk, smooth as, this will be checked again after 1/2 dozen flights.
blax1
01-03-2009, 02:46 AM
Total drive train now fully assembled.. :)
olhippie
01-03-2009, 03:04 AM
That's pretty sweet looking Blaxman! Nice work :)
blax1
01-04-2009, 01:48 AM
Bag 5
Battery/Radio plate
blax1
01-04-2009, 01:49 AM
Clean injection mould dimples
blax1
01-04-2009, 01:51 AM
Cut a counter sink on screw holes to make starting the screws easier :)
blax1
01-04-2009, 01:52 AM
Plate mounted to one side of frame.
blax1
01-04-2009, 02:29 AM
It was at this time the manual and I parted company :) (Temporarily of course)
I've read many threads about this machine, and the consensus is to fit the servos next then join the frame, this makes it so much easier to "A" get them in, and "B" start the wiring loom process using the "expandable mesh" that we spoke of some time back, even advise from my local Avant dealer said this is the way to go.. :cool:
So be it....
That's going to be a nice machine Ralph.
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:18 AM
Thanks Ots
Cyclic and throttle servos
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:21 AM
Two of these servos mount on the inside of the frame, one each side, they have a bridge reinforcement section that needs to be trimmed down, so they dont rock on the frame, out came the exacto again........... :)
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:25 AM
Elevator servo in.. :)
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:26 AM
Next.......... :D
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:28 AM
Futaba BLS251 on TR duty... :cool:
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:30 AM
All on board..
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:32 AM
Only one servo on right hand frame and the second inside mounted one
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:37 AM
All servos mounted with ferrules and rubbers supplied by JR, and the screws are supplied by Avant, all frame blind nuts are factory pre-crimped. (thank goodness) ;)
blax1
01-05-2009, 06:46 AM
Bag 6
Boom Support
Rudder bell crank
Canopy stand offs
Ratio plate
And about 33 frame screws................. :eek:
schluterdude
01-05-2009, 09:11 PM
great pics man, nice and clean with no glare from a flash :)
chips are produced during the turning/milling process of parts. swarf is what's left after grinding. each individual particle is a chip, but, collectivly, it's swarf in grinding.... very small particles. except for creepfeeds which kinda looks like a long stringy chip, but, it's still swarf....
blax1
01-05-2009, 09:22 PM
Thanks schluterdude, I thought the shots may have been a bit large but no one's said anything so I'll continue at the same size, I'm using a Sony Cybershot, on macro @ at 3 mega pixel, also I slightly off set the camera to minimise flash back off CF.. seems to work :)
Plenty more shots to come, I'm way ahead in the build, I'm trying to let the photo's tell the story, I just hope I'm not boring the crap out of anyone
Creepfeeds may be akin to the twist drill in a bench drill, the long spiral threads that the twist creates when drill mild steal, correct?
Ralph, you are having way too much fun building this helicopter. I can hear a smile in every entry you post.
It is a fantastic looking piece of engineering and I want one.
Great pictures and a great build. It doesn't even need rude little dolls to keep it interesting which is an improvement over my builds. Good luck with it.
cbflys
01-05-2009, 11:24 PM
Dude, don't forget the servo labels :p
blax1
01-06-2009, 05:27 AM
It doesn't even need rude little dolls to keep it interesting which is an improvement over my builds. Good luck with it.
lol- you make me laugh Dan, your machines are engineering marvels, this is a straight forward build, there's truck load of data out there, and thank god for Finless... ;)
Dude, don't forget the servo labels
I got one labelled Chuck :o
Please standby for some questions AR7100R using limiter, 2xSat's, 1x Data Logger, and Switchglo..................I'll need a hand..........Please ;)
A few screws in the frame, she,s coming together.. :cool:
cbflys
01-06-2009, 01:54 PM
Please standby for some questions AR7100R using limiter, 2xSat's, 1x Data Logger, and Switchglo..................I'll need a hand..........Please ;)
Standing by ...
schluterdude
01-06-2009, 06:37 PM
Creepfeeds may be akin to the twist drill in a bench drill, the long spiral threads that the twist creates when drill mild steal, correct?[/QUOTE]
creepfeed grinding is a pretty cool, very violent sounding process. essentially, a block of metal is placed in a fixture, then a wheel with some profile (to put the shape into the block) comes down and the block passes under the wheel. depth of cut can be upwards of 1/4 inch in some applications. but, it still doesn't make a regular "chip" like a drill, lathe, mill, hobber, etc. make. it's not even shiny, it's black (usually) and has a feel simmilar to really fine steel wool (#000 or better). kinda tough to explain... check out below for examples of creepfeed applications...
http://www.grinding.com/data/all_applications/index.cgi?Key=Blohm,blohm,magerle,jung,profile,&Field=custom_99&plisting=2&Exact_multikey=1&Delim=,
AirWolf
01-06-2009, 07:21 PM
Keep it coming Blax! I may not post alot, but I read through the threads on the forum every day, and the build threads are some of my favorites. The part I like most about this hobby is the building, which matches my flying style perfectly ;) . (B400 took another hard landing :( ).
You're doing a great job documenting this build Blax.
Joe
rc heli crazy
01-07-2009, 01:40 AM
congrats blax sexy looking heli :cool:
Rappy1
01-09-2009, 12:33 AM
thats one lovely looking machine ralph. it seems to be going together faster than the c5. I am sure you will have it setup well
schluterdude
01-12-2009, 11:38 PM
ok, got off my duff and snapped a picture of a grinding coolant tank for swarf. this is from a cylindrical application. it looks like a wet nasty paste, that's because it's wet with coolant. when it dries, it get kinda cakey and gritty....
man, can't wait to see you get this bird in the air! videos too!
Dude, don't forget the servo labels :p
Why label them?
schluterdude
01-13-2009, 02:18 AM
make life easier down the road....
make life easier down the road....
...How so?
schluterdude
01-13-2009, 03:55 AM
at a glance you can tell which lead going into the reciever controlls what. you can also write on the labels the channel number so you know the order they go in as well. a big potential bummer mixing up two servos on the swash if you don't check your work (but all of us do, RIGHT?)
but, still, no matter how idiot proof you try and make something, there's always an idiot smart enough to get around it!
OK - I was just curious if there was some reason other than plug ID.
cbflys
01-13-2009, 12:19 PM
Actually I was just ribbing him because he had huge lables on the servos when he built his Caliber 5. You could read them from the ground while the heli was in flight.
cbflys
01-13-2009, 02:22 PM
Speaking of which - what happend Ralph? You taking a break?
blax1
01-13-2009, 07:51 PM
Speaking of which - what happend Ralph? You taking a break?
No not really, something going with my anti virus, it say's this a dangerous site :confused: So I've backed off until I work it out, which should be tonight something do with Google syndication the adds in the left hand bar.
My build on the Aurora is way beyond where I'm at here, I'll try and post some shots tonight, nearly finished my canopy, applying decals later this week, should work out fine.
As for labeling servos schluterdude hit the nail on the head, I realize your just ribbing me, it was funny I labeled all the cyclic servos on the Avant and when I put the frames together two of them where covered up by the frame....so that stuffed that..... :o
Lots more to come, an amazing heli-............................. :cool:
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:14 AM
Drama,s sorted back into it....... :mad:
Right side frame canopy mount attached, sorry bit glarey
Anyone know how to post multiple actually photo thumbnails (not just the link) in one post on this forum? This could take a while one by one..... :confused:
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:16 AM
Nip up right hand ratio plate.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:17 AM
Rudder bell crank and support bearings.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:18 AM
Create counter sink to start thread.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:19 AM
Create thread with another screw, so the thread is pre-cut.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:20 AM
Tighten in balls, use blue loctite.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:23 AM
Boom block and bell crank mounted. :)
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:28 AM
Bag 7
CCPM System and swash plate assembles.
All linkage balls screwed in with 243 Blue loctite.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:30 AM
Careful assembly of ball orientation to the shaft.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:31 AM
Ditto........................ :D
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:32 AM
Installation of elevator lever.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:33 AM
Both sides done.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:34 AM
7 balls and anti rotation pin attached to swash also 3 set screws in base of swash to adjust swash bearing tension.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:35 AM
Installation of main shaft locking collar.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:37 AM
Swash lubed lightly.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:38 AM
Swash mounted.
blax1
01-19-2009, 09:38 AM
Anti rotation bracket mounted.
schluterdude
01-19-2009, 08:46 PM
lookin' good ralph! can almost hear the hum of the servo's and the scream of the pipe :)
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:36 AM
lookin' good ralph! can almost hear the hum of the servo's and the scream of the pipe :)
Thanks, Just a little way off yet... :)
Engine time.............. :cool:
Bag 8
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:37 AM
OS91SX-H C-SPEC
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:40 AM
Fan and clutch time..
Crank locking tool
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:42 AM
RED LOCTITE..... :mad:
No wind ups this time.
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:43 AM
Check run out....................NONE on fan ............ :cool:
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:48 AM
And hub...............ZIP.... :)
Also checked hub for lateral up and down movement 0.02..... I was going to hit it with a screw driver handle but thought better of it....
Let sleeping dogs lie ;)
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:51 AM
Assembled..
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:54 AM
OS91Sx-H C-Spec in the Heli- :)
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:56 AM
Other side ..
blax1
01-20-2009, 09:59 AM
Bag 9
Fan shroud
(Almost a shame to put it on)
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:00 AM
Install carby.
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:00 AM
Yep fits............. :D
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:04 AM
I think this motor has been a hassle for some people to tune in the past(non pump version) Cline modification may be required see what happens :) ....
I don't envisage to many problems, its just a motor after all.... ;)
Maybe someone can advise me what to expect etc.... :cool:
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:07 AM
Install fan shrould pre-screw to cut threads , makes life a lot easier :)
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:09 AM
Damn shame to cover that motor up............... :( Beautiful piece of engineering IMHO
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:10 AM
Bag 10
Skid row..................... :D
Landing gear installation.
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:12 AM
Struts and skids mounted.
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:14 AM
Threading grub screws.
Pre-thread first
But dont lock them up. length need to be established first-- :o
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:15 AM
Jobs done........................ :cool:
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:16 AM
Nice stance
blax1
01-20-2009, 10:18 AM
Must find some skid end caps--- doesn't look finished IMHO.. :)
Looks like the build is coming along nicely.
schluterdude
01-22-2009, 12:30 AM
should talk the avant people into making a thick clear fan shroud... would be a p.i.t.a. to keep clean, but, it would show off all the cool stuff whirring around :)
too bad we don't live in star trek land with transparent aluminum! would even be able to see the clutch!
homerlex
01-25-2009, 11:49 PM
Looking good Ralph. I finally had a chance to read through your whole thread so far. Keep it coming :)
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:40 AM
Bag 11
Base plate and right hand frame stiffener.
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:42 AM
Mounted......... :)
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:44 AM
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Bag 12
Fuel tank even though you can see in the last shot she's already onboard... :D
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:45 AM
Muffler pressure nipple installed.
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:46 AM
Ream out fitting to except fuel tube etc.
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:48 AM
Sorting out clunk length, and doing a double roll back on fuel to clamp it properly... :cool:
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:51 AM
Excess tube removed.
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:53 AM
Looking good Ralph. I finally had a chance to read through your whole thread so far. Keep it coming :)
Hi homerlex thank you, a long way to go... :)
Ready for assembly.
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:54 AM
Inserted into tank, spare hole filled with a screw to block it off, then tightened the assembly off to seal whole assembly into tank.
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:55 AM
Squeezed into frame................ :)
blax1
01-26-2009, 05:59 AM
Ok moving on back to BAG 13
TT Torque Tube.....Fiddly bugger this thing :confused: A good friend here helped me sort this out.. :cool: Its more the interpretation of the instructions than anything else, I'll explain as we go.. :)
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:03 AM
Pre-thread grub screws in TT connector.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:05 AM
Fit o'rings on bearing holder male shells.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:06 AM
Thin CA then snap the halves together, not to much CA, dont get it into bearings :(
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:07 AM
Bearing installed, shells all together.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:08 AM
Slide bearing holder on to TT o'rings facing in.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:09 AM
Slide inner TT plugs into tube then slide connector on to TT about a third of the way, then apply a few drops of CA around the join, then snap the tube into position tighten grub screws to almost level with connector.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:11 AM
Measure 152.4mm/6" out from connector on both ends, run some thick CA around the TT then slide the bearing back to the correct distance from the connector.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:13 AM
Use rubber grease on the bearing holder o'rings and slide into boom, jobs done...... :)
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:17 AM
Skipping Bag 14 at the moment time to sort electronics using AR7100R 2x sat antenna's and a data logger.... :cool:
Assembling Servos wheels and linkages.
Firstly getting Rx and binding sorted out.
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:21 AM
JR 8717's servo wheels, need to be drilled at 25mm spacing for the linkage balls the cross horn is actually 25mm at its extremities.........PERFECT.......... so its a simple matter of putting the cross horn over the wheel, to find the drill location.. :)
blax1
01-26-2009, 06:22 AM
Sorting out link lengths, pre-reaming ball links etc.... :cool:
Overdue for an update Ralph!
blax1
02-20-2009, 07:56 PM
Overdue for an update Ralph!
Sorry Ots been away
You can see through the hole in the frame the elevator arm, this has to centered perfectly as Finless does in his video, then work out were to drill holes in servo wheel for correct ball locations, all very fiddly really you kind of need three hands, so I worked out a way to hold the the lever using a cross horn with a raised egde on it, that fits into the frame hole perfectly than run a spare screw through the horn and into the lever effectively locking the lever in correct position so that you can determine ball locations correctly as can be seen in my photo, worked out really well, the other two cyclic levers I locked up with a small pair of vise grips, this also helped very much..... :cool:
Fitting balls
blax1
02-20-2009, 08:02 PM
Frame hole to line up centre's
blax1
02-20-2009, 08:03 PM
Using spare horn to lock elevator arm at centre and also on wheel to determine exact location for balls.
blax1
02-20-2009, 08:06 PM
Elevator wheel and link in place, perfect centre's.
blax1
02-20-2009, 08:08 PM
Same situation with aileron setup.
blax1
02-20-2009, 08:10 PM
Same with pitch servo set up.
blax1
02-25-2009, 06:13 AM
Bag 14
Assembling the tail box, similar situation as TR drive assembly.
No back lash.
Equal gear height.
No binding.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:39 AM
Select major components
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:40 AM
And of course all those shims :( Just measure each one and write a note :)
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:41 AM
Install TR drive gear, push in pin and lock off with grub screw.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:42 AM
Insert into TR case.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:43 AM
Lock off shaft sleeve assembly, press together by hand and tighten grub screw.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:44 AM
Install TR shaft drive, pin and lock off with grub screw.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:46 AM
Place into TR case, and start sorting your shims, using the same thickness shims on both shafts, then check for end float, and binding of gears, if you do feel binding mark the teeth with a felt pen and spin the gear 45-90o until binding is no longer felt.
I started out out with 0.3 shims and worked my way up to 0.5 which was the best feel, for my drive assembly, I did experiment with 0.4 & 0.6 but 0.5 was my best result, when completed each screw is taken out one by one and blue loctited. :cool: Of course this procedure is trail and error, and each time you change the shims, you need to take the whole assembly apart and re-assemble again until the correct shims are found.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:49 AM
Fully assembled TR case, the shaft should have no end float, and no binding what so ever. :)
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:51 AM
TR slider..............
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:52 AM
Pretty straight forward, but get the file out and clean the flashing off the pitch mechanism.....SMOOOOTH can not be over emphasized ......... :)
When installing bearings one is drop in fit on the mould release side of the slider however the other side is press fit (like press with your fingers) this concept is for self centering bearings
The brass screw (8mm open ender) assembly screws into pitch yoke, the hole is tapered, so push it all the way in, then start the self threading technique, stop when the slider assembly starts to bind, then back it off with 1/4-1/2 a turn.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:56 AM
Like all plastic threads-pre-thread first with another screw, makes life a lot easier. :)
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:57 AM
Install TR pitch links make sure orientation is correct.
blax1
02-26-2009, 07:58 AM
Ball secured............... :cool:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:01 AM
Assembling tail hub.
Using my greaser to fill bearings.....Ace tool .......... :cool:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:03 AM
Sorting out grips and hardware
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:04 AM
Pre-screwing threads again............. :D
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:06 AM
TR hub assembled
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:07 AM
Lining up bearings in grip holder.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:08 AM
Tightening grip holder evenly, dont over do it, keep pressure applied to grips as they close up.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:09 AM
Opposite side. :D
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:10 AM
Create thread for ball screw first.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:12 AM
Then screw in ball using blue loctite.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:13 AM
Tail rotor hub completed all as smooth as................. :cool:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:16 AM
Tail bellcrank assembly
Pre-threading ball screw hole.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:17 AM
Ball screw attached.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:18 AM
Installing bell crank bearings and spacer.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:19 AM
Use a screw to line them all up and then squeeze together hard so the spacer stays in the correct location for assembly.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:20 AM
Installing tail box on the boom
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:21 AM
PBR rubber grease to get the TT up the boom smooth and easy. :cool:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:22 AM
Tail box at home................ :cool: :cool: :cool:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:23 AM
Bell crank holder in place and snap lock onto TR slider ball this assembly must be smooth with NO binding during full travel in each direction.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:25 AM
TR grip hub on board, make sure you find the recess on the shaft that the grub screw lock into and use blue loctite.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:26 AM
Vertical stabilizer and bell crank ready for work.......................... :)
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:40 AM
OK had a break from that, time to sort out throttle linkage....... :cool:
Need some advice here....please
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:42 AM
I dont have a servo horn that will give me 90 degree's off the servo, I've had to go L20 in sub-trim to get it there......Is this a problem long term? Should I get the more horns to try OR just live with this..... :confused:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:44 AM
At 90 degree's after being sub trimmed.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:45 AM
The end result ....looks fine to me...
Any help appreciated as usual.. :)
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:47 AM
Gyro time DS760
I really would like to end up with a very clean looking heli- with regards to wiring, I've purchased 1/8,1/4/and 1/2 expandable mesh and shrink wrap to try and achieve this...
So this is a fiddly job... after a while I get my expandable mesh on the gyro...looks great...
BUT then I realize mistake.. :(
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:48 AM
I left out my additional satellite antenna wiring loom, So I pull it apart and start again..lol :rolleyes:
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:48 AM
I remove the anti rotation bracket because I want the wiring on the inside of the frame.
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:51 AM
Hole ain't big enough...soon sorted that.. ;)
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:52 AM
Jobs done................. :D
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:53 AM
The easiest way to get the wiring in, is remove the top bearing block, which I did, I really didn't want to remove the horizontal elevator shaft, lotsa work that one...but I did remove the top bearing block and this really opens her up and it was very easy to get all the wiring tucked away !!!!.. :)
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:54 AM
My sat/ant.... not really happy but it'll do for the time being, I'm thinking mount it horizontally on the boom tube mount......I'll sort that out later, at least she's glued down and outta harms way ATM..
blax1
02-26-2009, 08:56 AM
Bearing block back in place, very happy so far.. :) :)
Very cool, very neat, and really puts my black magic marker trick to shame.
cbflys
02-26-2009, 11:15 AM
The end result ....looks fine to me...
Any help appreciated as usual.. :)
Ralph, The pushrod should be 90 degrees to the servo arm. You have the servo arm setup 90 degress to the servo case. Re-center your sub-trim and find a splne that gets the arm as close to 90 degrees to the pushrod as you can get. You'll also have to adjust the arm on the carb to have it 90 degrees to the pushrod when the carb is half open.
heli-cuzz
02-26-2009, 12:16 PM
Looking good, ralph. :cool:
mkoutnik
02-26-2009, 12:39 PM
Looks really nice Ralph! I really like the tidy wiring - very clean looking.
Did you seal the edges of the carbon fiber frames with CA? Doing so will help minimize them from cracking and splintering...Issue #33 has a quick tip describing this.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:26 AM
Did you seal the edges of the carbon fiber frames with CA? Doing so will help minimize them from cracking and splintering...Issue #33 has a quick tip describing this.
Thanks, I haven't done the CA trick yet, I was a bit concerned about making a mess of it and getting on the gloss CF....BUT I will re-visit this idea and do some test runs underneath the frame out of sight and see how it turns out, then do the rest once I perfect a technique.............. :)
Ralph, The pushrod should be 90 degrees to the servo arm. You have the servo arm setup 90 degress to the servo case. Re-center your sub-trim and find a splne that gets the arm as close to 90 degrees to the pushrod as you can get. You'll also have to adjust the arm on the carb to have it 90 degrees to the pushrod when the carb is half open.
Yes Chuck, you are perfectly correct, sometimes I never cease to amaze myself at how dumb I can be, thank you for pointing that out I will check it out and re-adjust...... :o
Bag 15
I've decided to reinforce the boom strut ends with a brass external sleeve as well....
Which I got from my LHS
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:28 AM
Measure off 4 x 50mm sections of brass tube and cut with mini tube cutter.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:29 AM
I wicked the ends of carbon fibre struts with thin CA to try and stop potential splitting.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:31 AM
I slide the brass tube sections on to the struts and tape them in the middle, so I wouldn't forget them. :o
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:41 AM
Blow out and clean inside carbon strut...amazing the crap that was in there, just helps epoxy do it's job.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:43 AM
Ready to epoxy up. :cool:
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:44 AM
Jobs done, and masking tape applied to strut mounts ends to stop them from hydraulicing out.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:45 AM
Left to cure off, 24hours............ :)
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:48 AM
In the Finless video, Bob shows how to pin these strut ends in so they never come out, as has apparently happens to some guys.. :(
So I thought I may as well have a go, in my first photo, last post I added some roll pins, however these proved to be to big, not much point doing this and actually drilling the insert plastic strut mount in half..
Ended up using 1.6mm nail brads, not the roll pins.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:49 AM
1.5mm bit in drill press rag around strut to protect it.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:51 AM
Nailing brad through strut, being mindful to support the strut from underneath, don't want to crack it................... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:52 AM
Trim off excess
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:54 AM
Bench grind flush, dont go to close. ;)
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:55 AM
Use thick CA then slide brass sleeve into position.
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:56 AM
I got the Brasso out this morning and polished all the brass fittings up on both boom struts and the TR linkages as well...
blax1
03-04-2009, 08:58 AM
Looks a treat IMHO .... VERY HAPPY.... :) :)
Did the same with the TR linkage as well................ :cool:
kcgraves
03-04-2009, 10:35 AM
Looks great Ralph.
vermonster
03-04-2009, 11:55 AM
Looks great Ralph.
Ditto......
schluterdude
03-04-2009, 12:59 PM
sharp. pinash makes or breaks a project!
Rock and I were talking and I said that’s a lot of work just to make Ralph’s helicopter better looking than our helicopter. Rock said “don’t worry about it that brass will really clash with the sliver tail, swash and head.” I told him not to be so sure and we haven’t seen the head yet, that could still be out being gold plated.
mkoutnik
03-04-2009, 01:29 PM
Thanks, I haven't done the CA trick yet, I was a bit concerned about making a mess of it and getting on the gloss CF....BUT I will re-visit this idea and do some test runs underneath the frame out of sight and see how it turns out, then do the rest once I perfect a technique.............. :)
Easy technique...saturate a Q-tip with CA and then run it alond the frame edges. No drips, no mess, and very quick!
blax1
03-05-2009, 07:59 PM
Easy technique...saturate a Q-tip with CA and then run it along the frame edges. No drips, no mess, and very quick!
Hi ---- :)
I dug out the article in the mag- and had a read then I used this technique on my T-Rex that I have been modifying (pic's later)
Easy Peasy......... :cool: NO mess worked a treat...
Thanks :)
blax1
03-12-2009, 08:55 PM
Kind of stalled on my build due to lack of muffler/pipe. :(
My LHS has been trying to get me a Hatori SB18, BUT they've been on back order, some hassle with the importer.
So in the mean time I ordered one of these from GrandRC,
http://www.grandrc.com/inc/sdetail/184289
Anyone have any experience with this pipe, apparently its a Hatori-Chinese knock off.. Certainly looks OK, time will tell I guess....
Any thoughts. ideas etc? :)
I think you could put any 90 size muffler on it and it would still rock.
blax1
03-12-2009, 09:14 PM
I think you could put any 90 size muffler on it and it would still rock.
Some of the boy's here reckon they sound TINNY....?? I can live with that... :)
I suspect that the "tinny" sound will be overpowered by the sound of the OS 90. Either way I could live with it too.
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:39 AM
OK on with bag 16 the head assembly
Hang on for the ride this is a big packet.............. :rolleyes:
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:40 AM
Some components in this bag. :rolleyes:
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:41 AM
Screws, shims, bearings, pins etc
All laid out in some logical order, and bolts, screws all washed in metho- :cool:
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:43 AM
Cleaning out sea-saw screw holes.
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:44 AM
Red loctite sea-saw screws and snug, snug, tighten, tighten,
(were have I heard that) ................ ;)
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:45 AM
Sea-saw in place, double check orientation this must go the right way around!! :o
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:48 AM
OK this head is being set up for ACTIVE so from here on in attention needs to be made on various locations of some components.
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:50 AM
Red loctite double balls in place and they are located at FB2 to create the fly bar cage ratio setting. :)
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:52 AM
Round file inside head damper area and run some bolts through the head button threads to remove any metal left behind from the tapping process
blax1
03-14-2009, 07:54 AM
Clean out with some metho...
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:15 AM
I used both the needle pliers and soap method to get the surgical tube damper in place on the feathering shaft, worked at treat, be careful not to scratch the shaft with the pliers. :cool:
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:16 AM
Tube in place and centred.
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:18 AM
Again clean out thread holes..... :rolleyes:
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:20 AM
Hard and soft damper O'rings, hard go inside first then the softer one's on the outer.
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:21 AM
Slide one side on, use soap again, then the 1mm washer and slide cir-clip in place with the sharp side facing out, these are stamped in manufacture, one side smooth one side sharp edged, which locks against the shaft groove.
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:23 AM
Insert into head using the soapy water. :)
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:25 AM
Place the other damper on the other side plus the clip and slide down as far as you can get it, then get the brass sleeve supplied in the bag and slide over shaft, get a washer and screw and tighten down on this until the cir-clip snaps into the groove, if you cant hold it get another screw on the other side and use a Allen key to hold it, all this takes some force but works well, just make sure the cir-clip is shape side out. :cool:
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:26 AM
Brass tube removed. :cool:
Jobs done........ :) :) :)
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:29 AM
Assembling blade grips
Drop spacer shims into blade grips, make sure its flat in there.
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:30 AM
Pack bearings with grease.
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:32 AM
Organize bearings in their proper order large diameter bearing cup first, then the race and then the tight outer cup, put them on a screw driver in the correct sequence and drop into grip on top of the shim. :)
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:33 AM
Bearings in place and seated properly.
blax1
03-15-2009, 04:34 AM
Blue loctite, being careful as usual not get it into the bearings.
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