Bigger Heli - 600 Size

[MrTechno]

Can I get recommendations for 600-size electrics where parts are readily available? I want to move up from a Blade CX-2. I use a Phoenix sim and plan to learn using it before I attempt a first flight of a machine of this size. :eek:

[Julie]

trex 600 GF :D

[AaronS]

Going from a Blade CX to a 600 size electric is quite a leap! Do you have someone to help you with setup and getting it trimmed? A 600 size electric is quite large and intimidating. If you have the setup wrong it won't matter if you can fly a CX and the sim, you will probably crash. Cost is also something to consider, the 600 size electric models aren't really all that expensive, but the battery costs increase the price of operation significantly. If you are on your own, you may want to consider getting a smaller model and work your way up. The smaller sized models are actually very capable and stable, and they are more cost effective. Although the setup is effectively the same as the bigger models, smaller models are much less intimidating.

The T-REX 600 is a good choice, and parts are readily available. Logo helicopters are very well made and simple. The Raptor E620 is a very nice machine. Gohbee has a new 600 that looks pretty cool. Miniature Aircraft has a Razor 600 electric. I know there are more, but those are the ones coming to mind at the moment ;)

Whatever you decide to do you will be fine, and you can look here for any help needed, but its not the same as someone who can see the model and help you in person. :rolleyes:

[helifreak5623]

Like Julie said, the T-Rex 600E is a good 600 size electric heli, but bigger helis can be intimidating. If you want my opinion, you should start with a 450 size heli like the T-rex 450 or the Mini-Titan 325. The 450 size machines are capable, stable, and they don't quite cost as much to maintain (mostly because of the batteries, but other things as well). It's all up to personal preference, but like I said, I suggest a 450 size heli to upgrade from a CX-2.

[blax1]

MrTechno I can only second what Aaron has just related above, jumping from a CX to a 600 will be a very interesting experience, if you do decide this is your destiny. If you have to go it alone (a lot of us have) there is a lot of help here with set-up etc, once you start hovering her make sure you have plenty of space (park/field) and keep her low with some training gear on, get the feel, keeping practicing on the SIM, dont be tempted to fly to high, gain good control skills, and use your hovering ability as home base, get the hover down pat, this will keep you smiling, and most of all keep it safe, heli-s can be repaired people and pets etc can be a very different story..

Its a great hobby/sport just take your time and enjoy :)

Ralph

[DVS]

What about something in the middle like a T-Rex 500 size heli.?

[blax1]

What about something in the middle like a T-Rex 500 size heli.?
Thats a good idea :cool:

[Julie]

i second the idea of a 450 size heli first. theres no rush to get into the big helis, so take your time and get used to something a bit bigger. you have a cx2 right now, so moving to a CCPM head type heli is gonna be a big step, and its best to start a bit smaller. even moving to a micro would be a good idea

[heli-cuzz]

It does not matter what heli you buy next. A 450 size, a 500, or a 600. Any of those helis will crash if not set-up correctly. I feel it doesn't matter what heli you jump to, but you'll appreciate a 600 much more than a 450. Whatever you may decide to jump to, make sure you have the set-up correct and double check it, even triple check it.
I started with a nitro30 and have no regrets about doing so, if you like nitro, have a look into the Kyosho Caliber series helis. Click on my sig to see some.

[AaronS]

Heli-Cuzz- don't forget that one battery for a 600 electric could cost as much or more than an entire C-5 kit :rolleyes: You are right about setup being the same small vs large; stepping into a full function heli is a challenge no matter how big it is. Another thing worth considering is the 600 electrics can seem more intimidating than Nitros of the same size. They are no different in reality, but with a nitro you mostly just hear the engine. With an electric all you hear is the blade noise and gear train, which is cool once you get use to it, but many beginners have mentioned how intimidating it sounds, so I think its something to consider.

[kcgraves]

Battery cost is what keeps me away from anything larger than a 450 Electric. I have seen people puff a new 5S and 6S battery and say Oh Well and grab another one. Sorry I'd rather spend that money on something else. Go with a 450 or a .30 or .50 size nitro.

[smh20502]

Try going with an 8s A123. you pull them from dewalt 36v packs. they are as durable as nicad, can be charged in 15 min, are 2.8v-3.6v (at load it's 2.8). Oh, I almost forgot, so long as you don't get them over 140 degrees F. they'll last 1000 charges. To me it's worth the extra weight (about half again more than li-po's)

I'm in the process of getting my t-rex 600 set up for this and can't wait. I'm like you 250-350 buck for batteries...forget that.


try adding up actual cost of a nitro and you'll be surprised at how close it is to electrics. remember you have to keep buying nitro fuel, and the support can cost as much as for electric.


Remember only fly a heli that you can afford to crash.

[HeatSeeker{DEN}]

:cool: I started with an old fixed pitch Walkera from E-Bay and then went to a Blade CP, a T-Rex 450SE and have just recently bought a T-Rex 600N. I must say that the larger size, even after flying the 450 for a while, is still intimidating. It will be a while before I have her in the air as I have to buy one piece at a time (Sounds like a Johnny Cash song doesn't it?) so I hope to be a better pilot before then. I think that if I had made the leap into the 600 realm before the 450's I would have been over my head. But with that said, every pilots learning curve is different so you may have progressed further than I had at that point. If so more power to you. Just from the build of the shell, I can tell you that the 600n is an awesome machine. Hope this helps. :cool:

[WiscHeli]

my 1st heli was a 36 nitro then got a 50 nitro ,back in the 80s ,,,,, now i have a trex 450 and trex 500 in electric ,,,, look at the trex 500 it is a ver stable machine ,,,, it flys like a 50 nitro ,,, 600 electrinc can be very pricy in batterys if you go that big go with nirtro
:D

[RotorDoc]

There is no secret to the fact that the bigger they are the better and easier they are to fly. Progressing upward from where you are, will mean the purchase of different radio gear, so IMHO you might as well do it right at this point in time and save further expense later for it.

One recommended in many forums on bigger electric helis (like that in RCGroups) is the Century Swift 16 (uses 520 to 560mm mainblades). This will take you from mild to wild.

Depending on the power system used, it can easily be set up to fly mildly for training on an inexpensive 4 cell LiPo pack ($110 to $140) and later with just an inexpensive change of pinion and sacrificing flight time it can be set for some pretty wild 3D.

Also, as one progresses, with another inexpensive pinion change, and the use of 5 or 6 cell packs, it can be set-up to be a relatively extreme 3D animal while retaining good flight times.

And to set it up on a 4 cell system will cost you less then I spent on my T-Rex 450SE (this spends a lot of time on the shelf since I got my Swifts. :)

[helifreak5623]

Looks like a pretty neat heli :cool:. Here's the link to it's page: Century Swift 16 (http://www.centuryheli.com/products/helikits/swift/index.htm?currentid=304). Personally, if I were lookin' for a bigger electric heli, I would go with the T-Rex 500 CF.